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December 21, 2011 at 2:40 pm #984I've checked out many topics in the forum…. So let me start out by saying thank you for starting this site, lots of information. Back ground on me. Went skiing once in 5th grade. Went snowboarding for the first time last winter, went about 4 times. Went once this winter. I'm 35 6'1″ 215 pounds size 12 boot. My board is a Gnu carbon credit 161wide. In no way shape or form can I be mistaken as a awesome rider. Still learning to become fluid on the mountain. I have a couple questions…… I've read a couple topics about wide boards on the forum. Sometimes I'm able to string together consecutive turns, other times I feel like I'm fighting the board to turn and usually catch a edge several times a day…. Was wondering if being a newbie on a wide board,or if I'm on a inappropriate board and could be riding a boaI've checked out many topics in the forum…. So let me start out by saying thank you for starting this site, lots of information. Back ground on me. Went skiing once in 5th grade. Went snowboarding for the first time last winter, went about 4 times. Went once this winter. I'm 35 6'1″ 215 pounds size 12 boot. My board is a Gnu carbon credit 161wide. In no way shape or form can I be mistaken as a awesome rider. Still learning to become fluid on the mountain. I have a couple questions…… I've read a couple topics about wide boards on the forum. Sometimes I'm able to string together consecutive turns, other times I feel like I'm fighting the board to turn and usually catch a edge several times a day…. Was wondering if being a newbie on a wide board,or if I'm on a inappropriate board and could be riding a board better suited to my skill set. ( found my current board on craigslist last year…. Didn't want to invest in a new board until I learned how to ride. Used a board calculator before buying) I've adjusted the hi backs on my bindings to help keep me in a better stance, I've concentrated on putting pressure on my front leg to initiate a turn and then use my back leg to help complete the turn. My bindings are set in a “duck stance. I ride regular and goofy, often starting each run differently and usually switching a couple times during a run…. I feel comfortable either way. I'm not able to figure out if I have a brainfart or if what I think is a proper stance is causing me to catch a edge…. If I need to turn quick because someone fell or cut me off…. It's almost a given that I'm catching a edge. I'm not looking to be a superstar on the mountain, just want to be in control and fluid in a sport that I have fell in love with. Thank you.December 21, 2011 at 5:28 pm #3815
Hi Jay. Let me begin by welcoming you to this site and complimenting you for such a thorough and informative post. I really feel like I got a good image of your riding experience and situation from that.I do want to get a little bit more info from you before offering you recommendations. Primarily how your boots and bindings are positioned on your board. Are your boots centered heel/toe-wise? Do the heels/toes of the boots overhang any? If so how much? Can you post a pic of the board/boot/binding all strapped in?Sorry for so many questions, but I need to get a better image of your gear setup.Peace,Frosty
December 21, 2011 at 11:02 pm #3816Hope the pictures helps answer your questions. Thank you for responding so quickly. Because this board has magnetraction and more points of contact….. Think maybe that could be hindering me? I bought the board used simply because I didn't want to ruin a brand new board. My thought was that I would buy new after I felt like I was in better control…. Was able to buy this board for $140… Considering it was a respected brand, thought itwas a no brainer over renting.
December 21, 2011 at 11:04 pm #3817Oops… Pictures wouldn't upload…… Gotta an error saying file was too big…. Can I email it?
December 21, 2011 at 11:24 pm #3818Posted pictures to your Facebook page
December 22, 2011 at 12:08 am #3819I can't see your picture on the frosty rider facebook page, but I have a few questions of my own.Do you know what edge you're catching? Like front toe, back heel, etc.What are the angles on your bindings? Are they set too aggressively? Ie, -20/+20
December 22, 2011 at 12:20 am #3821Sometimes I catch on topside…. Mostly heel. Both bindings are set at 15… Not sure negative or positive… But toes are angled out towards the tip/tail
December 22, 2011 at 12:21 am #3822I wonder if switching back and forth between regular and goofy so soon could be messing things up also? Maybe if you stuck to either one or the other for a while and really concentrated on learning that one side first might help? Frosty what do you think??
December 22, 2011 at 12:32 am #3823That would be +/- 15. Is that a comfortable riding position? The reason I ask is, that is a bit aggressive. I ride a +8/-11 ish, I'm not sure how accurate the counter is on the binding plates.When I ride at really aggressive angles like that, I can handle riding straight down a run with smaller turns left and right, but when I go to try a longer sweeping curve, as in to go around acorner, I find that my board slides out. Like it can't handle the loss of pressure from my toes or heels from being out too far.And I've ridden Rowan's magne traction board, and find it to be catchy until you get used to it. That could be some of the problem too.Don't worry, we'll figure this out. Frosty is great at these types of deals.
December 22, 2011 at 12:42 pm #3826I will adjust the angle on my bindings…. Any suggestions on a angle? I'm thinking + /-10. I will try to stay goofy or regular and see if that helps correct the issues, I feel I'm able to ride equally well(or not well) either way.
December 22, 2011 at 3:06 pm #3827Pics are now attached tot his thread.
December 22, 2011 at 4:00 pm #3828+/- 10 is a good start. Really it's what ever is comfortable. If you are truly very comfortable at +/- 15 then there are some other things that can be tweeked.Just out of curiosity, how did you come up with that mounting number? Is that your natural stance on a snowboard?From the attached pictures, the angle doesn't look as extreme as I thought it would. So that may not be the problem. But when I first started learning, I hadsome wide angles like that and it caused a lot of problems, so I thought it was an avenue worth exploring.As far as the flopping from regular and goofy, you should be stronger on one than the other. That would be the side to try to ride to correct the problems.I wouldn't throw away the ability to ride the other right away though. Practice both. Just dial in your natural position to be completely fluid.
December 22, 2011 at 6:41 pm #3829Your setup looks fine man. If you are ofter on toeside and are too often catching the heelside edge and falling backwards then you have got a real problem that you have to workaround. The good news is that I do not have any reason to believe it is related to your equipment or the setup. That will save you $$! Yeah, magnetraction makes it a little grabbier, but you should be able to get used to it. Let's focus on technique. I think the biggest cause of this problem is bowing while in toeside stance. If you are bending at the waist then you are asking for trouble since it moves your balance around too much and creates too much movement and instability.I will re-post this from one of the other threads here:Here are some tips for how to take a perfect toeside stance:1) Take a natural stance on your board. Slightly bend your knees and kee
Your setup looks fine man. If you are ofter on toeside and are too often catching the heelside edge and falling backwards then you have got a real problem that you have to workaround. The good news is that I do not have any reason to believe it is related to your equipment or the setup. That will save you $$! Yeah, magnetraction makes it a little grabbier, but you should be able to get used to it. Let's focus on technique. I think the biggest cause of this problem is bowing while in toeside stance. If you are bending at the waist then you are asking for trouble since it moves your balance around too much and creates too much movement and instability.I will re-post this from one of the other threads here:Here are some tips for how to take a perfect toeside stance:1) Take a natural stance on your board. Slightly bend your knees and keep your back straight. Stay in alignment to your stance. Do not twist your body. Only turn your head to look in the direction of travel.2) Flex your ankles, lowering your knees and push your hips slowly forward.3) The board tipping should occur naturally. Do not force it. Do not do the “Michael Jackson”. Your stance over the toe edge should not put you off balance.On steep slopes, do not overdo the board angulation. That will only increase the possibility of toe drag which could be disastrous.
You think that could be it for you?
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